Texas and Louisiana, as of the moment, are the first states to reach the 25,000 threshold number of signatures…. but other states will follow. I support this movement, and all of these petitions, even though I know that as a practical matter the States are organically (and unconstitutionally) integrated into a single organic whole with the Federal Government. And this is how it has been, at least since Social Security was adopted in 1937, as ratified and explained by the United States Supreme Court (as one big common trough or “slush fund”). See Helvering v. Davis, 1937 (05-27-1937 Helvering v Davis 301 US 619 57 SCt 904 Jusice Cardozo endorses the SS Trust Fund Fraud & Charles C Steward Mach Co v Davis).
As I have written more than once, possibly more than one hundred times on this blog alone in fact, I feel strongly that Barack Hussein Obama and I do not belong in the same country. 11-13-2012 My 16 Secession Petitions | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government. But I urge everyone to sign these petitions in every state in which they have any interest at all—it’s not like voting, you really can “Petition early and Petition Often” without violating any rules—-there are other states with Secession Petitions but I decided to sign only in those states into which I had at least set foot and spent at least one night during the past five years…. which excluded only Oregon, Indiana, and North Dakota from the list of states which have currently active secession petitions. I should note that there are also counter-petitions to strip me (and everyone else who signed these petitions) of our citizenship and/or have us deported and/or exiled—like I said, there’s not room enough in this country for Barack Hussein Obama and me….he is not my President and he never has been.
I discovered these petitions for secession reading:
How would Old Glory look with 30 stars instead of 50? As far-fetched as it may sound, the White House might soon be forced by its own rules to examine the question.
On Nov.7, the day after President Barack Obama was re-elected, the White House’s website received a petition asking the administration to allow Louisiana to secede.
The Louisiana petition has collected more than 12,300 signatures in four days. A separate effort from Texas has 15,400 supporters.
Similar petitions from 18 other states began arriving Nov. 9, bringing the total — for the moment — to 20.
The White House website publicly displays petitions that have attracted at least 150 signers. (RELATED: Obama petition initiative bashed as unethical campaigning with taxpayer resources)
“Michael E” from the New Orleans suburb of Slidell penned the initial proposal — the website doesn’t provide last names — in which he asked the Obama administration to “[p]eacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”
His entire petition consisted of excerpts from the Declaration of Independence.
“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,” one portion read, “that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.”
“Micah H” from Arlington, Texas submitted the petition on behalf of the Lone Star State.
“The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending,” he wrote.
Texas, he added, “maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world,” making it “practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union.”
What began as a pair of parallel stunts appears to have gathered steam. Other than Louisiana and Texas, states with secession-related petitions pending on the White House website now include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina and Tennessee.
While most of the petitions mimic the Louisiana effort’s tribute to the Declaration of Independence, Montana’s and Florida’s focus on the same quoted line from Benjamin Franklin: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
And a few abandon the Founding Fathers entirely, going off instead on their own less poetic tangents.
“The Federal Government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon’s best intrests [sic],” reads one submitted by “Kristopher W” of Tillamook, Oregon. ”[A]nd we as citizens would respectively and peacably [sic] seperate [sic] ourselves from a tyranical [sic] Government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children.”
“just like in 1860,” reads one of the two petitions submitted on behalf of the citizens of Georgia, “the south secede [sic] from the union.”
“kyle. r” from Cornelia, Georgia added only that in “2012 the state of georgia [sic] would like to withdraw from the USA.”
“Jason B” from Harrowgate, Tennessee volunteered only a few words to describe his request for a license to secede. “Helping the people of Tennessee,” he wrote. And nothing more.
The petitions that followed those from Louisiana and Texas have attracted between 300 and 4,000. Their chances to land on a White House staffer’s desk, probably for a polite guffaw, will expire between Dec. 9 and Dec. 11.
The White House did not respond to emails seeking comment.
This article was updated shortly after publication to include a petition from Arkansas.
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This is clearly one of the most exciting (if probably totally meaningless and pointless) political protests in which I have had the opportunity to engage in many years. And after writing all of the above I noticed that Ohio’s Petition is uniquely worded and distinctive (and I spent several nights in Ohio in December 2010, so I signed that Petition also, as well as Arizona, Michigan, Wyoming, and Oklahoma within which States I have traveled during the past five years, leaving out Kansas, Utah, and a couple of other late arrivals):
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Allow for the peaceful withdrawal of Ohio from the United States of America such that it becomes its own free nation.
Ohio became the 17th state admitted to the Union in 1803 and it presently has a population and economy larger than that of Switzerland.
John F Kennedy once stated “those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable” and in that spirit it is just and proper that the opportunity for peaceful political change be given to the citizens of the states.
It would be a crime against the people of any state to hold them, against their will, in a Union that they desire to leave.
Ohio can stand on its own as a free and independent nation, separate from the United States of America, while remaining on friendly terms with the United States of America.
Ohio’s right to leave the Union should be recognized and it should be allowed to peacefully withdraw from the USA.
In the wake of the Nov. 6 election, petitions seeking to secede from the union have been filed on behalf of 23 states on the White House website, https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions. Most of the petitions contain the same wording and ask to withdraw “peacefully” from the United States in order to form independent governments.
Critics describe the effort as a bit of an overreaction. “Anyone who wants their state to secede from the union is someone whose brain has already seceded from their body,” said John Andrews, director of the conservative Centennial Institute at Colorado Christian University.
Still, the White House may have to take the requests seriously. According to the website, any petition receiving 25,000 online “signatures” on the “We the People” page within 30 days of posting will receive a review by the appropriate executive department and a response from a White House staffer.
As of Monday, the Texas petition had already exceeded the 25,000-signature threshold, and the Louisiana petition was fast approaching the cutoff with more than 18,000 signatures. Most of the petitions were posted online Nov. 10, which means they have until Dec. 10 to qualify for a response.
It’s impossible to tell from the website who is behind the drive, given that those signing the petition only use their first names, last-name initials, and city and state of residence. The website does show that most petitions include the John Hancocks of signers from other states.
“We have not put out anything seceding from the United States, but the feedback we’re getting shows that people believe that their elected state leaders are more in tune with their needs than those of the federal government,” said Mr. Eichler.
He added that support for secession has cropped up in comments on the organization’s blogs. “People are feeling disenfranchised, they’re feeling a loss of voice, and they just don’t know what else to do,” he said.
Many of the petitions make their argument by quoting extensively from the Declaration of Independence, although some also add that the federal government has grown too large.
“The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending,” says the Texas petition, which had more than 34,000 signatures as of Monday evening.
The Oregon petition argues that the federal government is guilty of an “abuse of power” by forcing “unconstitutional laws over [its] own citizens.”
Seth Masket, political science professor at the University of Denver, said the petitions may be a good way to blow off steam, but that they carry no legal weight.
“It’s hard to see this as anything other than sour grapes,” said Mr. Masket in an email. “These petitions have no legal power and no president would ever agree to them. It’s a way to register dissent with the way the majority of the country voted last week, but it’s little beyond that.”
Then again, said Mr. Eichler, the petitions could be the start of something big, such as the first call for a constitutional convention.
“I’m glad people can vent their frustrations, but what if it’s more than that?” he said. “What can we do to stop this encroachment into states’ rights? What are the tools? Well, there aren’t too many of them, but one of them is a constitutional convention.”
Petitions have been filed on behalf of the following states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.
Read more: Petitions to secede are filed for 23 states since election – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/12/petitions-to-secede-are-filed-for-23-states-since-/?page=2#ixzz2C67H6S00
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