Texas still leads the nation with 105,905 signatures on its “we the people” Petition asking, pleading, President Obama and the Whitehouse to “take these chains from my heart(land) and set me free…. you grown red (communist) and no longer care for me…. all my faith in you in you is gone, but the deficit lingers on…. take these chains from my heart(land) and set me free.” (With all due apologies to Hank Williams, Sr., who would certainly have signed the Petitions for Secessions in one or more of his beloved Southern States…). In Texas, the petition is still growing like wildfire at the rate of better than one new signature per minute, the Lone Start state now being up to 105,921…. and Louisiana has climbed from 34,631 to 34,690 in the past hour (9:15-10:15 PM, Pacific Standard Time), while Alabama has increased a roughly comparable number from 28,137-28,179 in the same time.
Mississippi hasn’t made it over the threshold of 25,000 yet, holding at 16,776, but Missouri has two Petitions, one at 17,965 and a second at 12,843 as of 9:15 Pacific. Florida (the third in line to reach 25,000) stands at 31,491, up from 31,410 one hour ago (and thus expanding at the Texas rate, at least tonight). Like Missouri, South Carolina has two Petitions, neither of which have crossed the threshold, though the one currently standing at 21,703 probably will by dawn’s early light on Thursday November 15; the second South Carolina petition stands at 14,025.
By contrast Georgia has one petition over the top at 29,375 as of 9:15 PM Pacific up to 29,430 by 10:23 PM, another holding at 11,568, and yet a third Georgia Petition had collected 6,766 signatures as of 9:15, up to 6,801 at 10:38PM. If we combine the three petitions together, sentiment in favor of secession for Georgia is second only to Texas.
Tennessee Secession has 28,415 supporters, making it the Sixth and last state (so far) to top the 25,000 mark.
Up until just now, I had somehow missed North Carolina’s Petition, but I just signed it….and the Tar-Heal state is “on board” as the Seventh State to pass 25,000 with 27,838 as of 11:52 PM on 11-14-12.
Arkansas and Arizona are nearly tied at 20,807 and 20,360, still under the wire. Mississippi lags surprisingly, and disappointingly, behind…
It is strange indeed that so many northern states have joined into the race to decide, but 7,431 people supported the Secession of the Empire State, 11,956 want Pennsylvania gone from the Union, while the smallest of three contiguous states, New Jersey, leads with 12,957 signatures. On closer examination, it appears that Pennsylvania actually has two petitions for secession, the fourth of this series though at 7,556 signatures, making this fourth “Middle Atlantic” state’s petition on par with Virginia’s oldest of three petitions which has earned 7,165.
Virginia’s three petitions may be compared by the use of different language: the oldest and largest (so far) asks “Peacefully grant the State of Virginia to Withdraw from the United States”. A Second ask that the President “Allow the state of Virginia to vote on peacefully leaving the United States” (3,948) and the third is worded “Peacefully grant the COMMONWEALTH of VIRGINIA to Withdraw from the U.S. of America…” (3,679)
Still focusing on the east coast, Rhode Island Secessionists have 3,815 signatures. Connecticut separatists had by 9:15PM on Wednesday collected 1,866 up to 2008 by 11:33PM. Massachusetts neo-Patriots have 2,514. Those later day followers of John Caldwell Calhoun in Maryland have 2,046.
Maryland, Massachusetts, and Connecticut secessionist number at least 923 fewer than those of Maine at 2,969 and a third less than those of New Hampshire 4,481. Strikingly, these three states each have 4,000 less than signed up for secession in tiny Delaware. Those who would make Delaware into the next Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco, or San Marino have collected over 6,920 signatures on its petition “Peacefully….to withdraw from the United States of America” (up to 6,949 by 11:37PM).
Inland and Westward, Ohio has one petition with 10,264 signatures, and another with 7,489 signatures in favor of “the Republic of Ohio” and yet a third petition with 1,950 signatures. Fans of Michigan Secession number at least 17,583.
Michigan’s figure is fairly astounding for being twice the number who have signed in favor of Oklahoma Secession (8,429), while leading advocates of solitary independence for New Mexico and Washington have only 3,903 and 3,099 signatures, respectively. There is a secondary Washington State Petition which has collected 1,964.
Secessionists in California, the most populous state, are apparently few and far between, with only 12,718 signatures, including out of staters who signed in favor of resuscitating the Bear Flag Republic.
Hawaiian Secessionists finally got busy and gathered 2,530 signatures by 9:15 on Wednesday, up to 2,605 by 10:47 PM, but this is nothing compared to Alaska’s two petitions at 2,363 (“Allow Alaska to Secede from a Dysfunctional Union”), 6,953 asking to “Allow Alaskans a free and open election to decide whether or not Alaska should Secede from the United States.”
So, by day’s end on November 14, 2012, a sufficient number of signatures have been gathered only with regard to seven states, all once part of the Confederate States of America (1861-1865), to require “the White House” to comment on secession. Arizona, Arkansas, Missouri, and South Carolina can be confidently expected to join the list.
I’m sure our President will say nothing of any importance (he never does—why should he start now?). A real “spirit of ’61” might be alive in Texas, Georgia, (and South Carolina, and possibly Missouri) but even the numbers from Alabama, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Tennessee, which have passed the 25,000 threshold, are otherwise unimpressive.
Up North, Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, and Delaware seem the most secession minded, but unless Pennsylvania catches on fire soon, Michigan-Ohio and Delaware-New Jersey might end up as separate “Confederacies.” Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and Virginia are at least “in the running”, as is South Carolina with two petitions.
The original seven states to secede in 1860-61 were South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, and Texas. They met in Montgomery to frame a new and improved Constitution which could have been adopted Nationwide but for the Abolitionist-Slavery agitation.
Arkansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia eventually joined the CSA. That was for them probably a mistake, because as it happened most of the fighting was in Virginia, and most of the death. The War of Secession, which could have been and should have been the Second American Revolution, all-but completely and tragically destroying what had been the first and wealthiest English-speaking colony in the New World. More blood was shed in battle in Virginia than lives had been lost to gunfire or bayonet in any of Napoleon Bonaparte’s “palaeo-technic” wars of Conquest. This generalization would not count the “frozen holocaust” of the French Grand Armée of half a million in Russia in the winter of 1812-13, because it was the weather, and Napoleon’s ignorance of meteorology, that destroyed the First Empire, rather than any particular strategy on the part of the Tsar.
Of all of the eleven actively Confederate States, Arkansas and Florida saw the least in the way of battle or bloodshed. Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Maryland (of which only Tennessee completely and fully seceded, although Missouri and Kentucky had competing Confederate and Union State Capitals and legislatures during the war).
I think it is fair to say that the Petitions being signed and circulated are currently meaningless, empty symbolic acts. The First Seven States to sign up are all original Confederate States, probably signed by people like me who grew up listening to tails of the glorious heroism of the original Confederacy. Texas leads because Texas has the unique heritage of having been a moderately successful Independent Republic for ten years before agreeing to annexation. South Carolina and Mississippi, the first states to secede in 1860-61, have not yet inspired 25,000 signatures on any single petition, although they probably will, as will Missouri.
So right now the active and sufficiently numerous petitions are Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and North Carolina, in the order of passing the 25,000 mark. We’ll see what happens next. I have not yet seen what the Tenth Amendment Center has to say, if anything, about this new movement, but that too will be interesting to follow—because prior to Secession was the Nullification movement, heroically led by first by Jefferson and Madison against the Alien and Sedition Acts and then by John Randolph of Roanoke and John Caldwell Calhoun against Northern Tariffs….