Tim Turner Convicted by Montgomery, Alabama, Jury and Facing Stiff Sentence, end of the Republic of the U.S.A.?

As for Tim Turner & Company (see below), well, I was never personally a fan of the Republic of the United States or its activities.  However, I know a lot of upright, good and conscientious people who supported him.
And as for being convicted by Federal Courts—well, as anyone who reads this blog carefully knows, I took a 54 day long involuntary tour of the Federal Correctional System in the winter of December 9, 2007-February 2, 2008 to end up speaking to Judge Janis Graham Jack (also involuntarily) for all of 20 minutes or so in Corpus Christi (she wanted me GONE from her life and world, after expending who knows how much in taxpayer dollars to drag me all the way through Los Angeles, Victorville, the Oklahoma City transfer center, the Grady County Jail, Conroe, and Houston to Alice, Texas, from Mexico City).  
And what I will tell everyone here again, as I have told many people in person and published on my blog since I started writing it a few days after I was released in February 2008, I met a lot of good people serving long, long terms in the custody of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.
Surprisingly, perhaps, even to me, I met very few genuine “criminals” (people convicted of conduct which would have been illegal under either Biblical or Anglo-American Common Law or even Roman-Civil Law, but a lot of people convicted of offenses against the Regulatory State which criminalizes EVERYTHING).  I met a lot of people who were wrongly convicted, innocent even of crimes of “malum prohibitum”, either by pleas entered under duress by threats of the much longer and more draconian sentences which could be procured by perjured testimony and unconstitutional prohibition or preclusion of defenses.

Charles Edward Lincoln, III

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Posted By: Seawitch [Send E-Mail]

Date: Saturday, 23-Mar-2013 16:03:18


Turner found Guilty

Docs here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0azgpfz2ffcv6e1/RLBXoOh-73

Local ‘sovereign’ leader convicted of conspiracy, tax evasion
Posted: 03/22/2013 8:13 PM

A federal jury convicted an Ozark man on Friday of multiple felony charges related to a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government and tax evasion.

James Timothy Turner, 57, was found guilty after a five-day trial that took place in U.S. Judge Myron Thompson’s courtroom in Montgomery this week.

According to a U.S. Department of Justice press release, Turner was convicted of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., attempting to pay taxes with fictitious financial instruments, attempting to obstruct and impede the Internal Revenue Service, failing to file a 2009 federal income tax return and falsely testifying under oath in a bankruptcy proceeding.

The FBI began investigating Turner in 2010 after he and three other people sent packages to all 50 governors demanding they leave office.

Turner is the president of a group of what prosecutors called “sovereign citizens” known as the “Republic for the united States of America.”

Turner toured the country in 2008 and 2009 teaching seminars that instructed attendees how to submit bonds to pay off tax debt.

According to prosecutors, these bonds were completely fictitious and often written for amounts in excess of $1 billion.

“Witnesses at trial testified that Turner used special paper, financial terminology, and elaborate borders in an effort to make the fake bonds look ‘real’ and … more likely to succeed in defrauding the IRS,” according to the Department of Justice press release.

The jury found Turner guilty of submitting a $300 million fake bond in his own name and helping send at least 15 others to the U.S. Department of Treasury.

Turner also filed a $17.6 billion maritime lien against an individual in Montgomery County Probate Court as part of a retaliatory practice he taught at his seminars.

The press release states that Turner remains in federal custody pending sentencing.

He faces a maximum of 164 years in prison, a maximum fine of $2.35 million and mandatory restitution.

Docs here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0azgpfz2ffcv6e1/RLBXoOh-73


“A nation…cannot survive treason from within…the traitor …wears the face of his victims,…and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly…he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared…….” Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

2 responses to “Tim Turner Convicted by Montgomery, Alabama, Jury and Facing Stiff Sentence, end of the Republic of the U.S.A.?

  1. James Timothy Turner is not antigovernment; he is anti-corporation-government, which is what we have in Washington via Act of 1871. Sovereigns with RuSA are also not antigovernment; THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT de jure via We the People. They are peace loving and righteousness pursuing people who want all of America to reestablish the republic that was lost via the Act of 1871, which vacated the republic and made the citizens subject to a corporation called the UNITED STATES. Turner did not teach anyone to tap into secret government accounts; he taught people to discharge debt through their own account that the UNITED STATES corporation put aside for us as a remedy for their mortgaging our future earnings. Turner did not try to pay his taxes; he tried to discharge his tax debt via the account put aside for each and every one of us by the corporation-government. Turner did not prey on anybody; he only tried to free the people from the bondage created by the UNITED STATES corporation and the New World Order. I hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling that this verdict represents God’s weighing of America in the balance of righteousness and America was found lacking because they did not see Turner as one pursuing righteous for the good of America and the world. They did not see that the American system has become more and more evil over the decades and now is a police state. Apparently, the court or jury did not see righteousness when it stood up right in their faces. Turner isn’t perfect; but compared to the politicians in Washington; he is a bright shining light. Sovereigns aren’t opposed to paying taxes per se; they are opposed to paying taxes to an agency that collects for the IMF. They are also opposed to paying taxes that really go overseas instead of coming back home. By the way, the Constitution is supposed to protect and guard our inherent rights; it never authorized usurping them via Congressional Acts, laws, executive orders, and so forth. Really, any law that goes against the Constitution is no law at all (Why don’t courts find this and hold up the Constitution? Because they also work for the same corporation who makes profit for the elite and New World Order). The person who cannot see that the USA is currently a tyranny state is either duped or a part of that tyranny. It’s funny the UNITED STATES corporation will prosecute truth tellers but those who falsify documents, such as birth certificates, social security cards and so forth become heroes. Those who give arms to Mexico to blame the 2nd Amendment somehow become heroes. Those who let the CIA bring guns and drugs into our cities and ruin the people are somehow worthy to be our leaders. Those who continue wars and create new ones without real justification go about as doing nothing wrong. But when a Turner or the like comes along, the book gets thrown at them. This nation needs to repent from all its unrighteousness. Stop calling good evil, and evil good. We need to get back to the Bible and get back to God. Both the Democratic and the Republican parties and the mainstream news are bought by the New World Order. This New World Order is a Luciferian/Satanic system. In the end the system will not only require taxes, licenses, and tracking from its subjects; it will require their eternal souls.





  2. Charles Edward Lincoln III

    Daniel Christian Mack, a good friend, a great American, and a dedicated Christian and Patriot, as well as a veteran of the Orange County Complaint (09-cv-01072-DOC), our abortive attempt to corner Steven D. Silverstein and bring at least one of the worst malefactors in the mortgage foreclosure debacle to justice in California, wrote as follows on Saturday, March 23, 2013 commenting further about Turner, even before “We the People” made contact on Monday….Dan Mack is a man I think should run for office……..
    I don’t normally respond to emails not addressed to me, but I wanted to express my satisfaction with your tenor concerning the news about Tim Turner. Where you could’ve said “I told you so” you didn’t. And if you had been in the company of the man both publicly and privately as often as I was (and not anywhere near as many hours as most of his followers were) you might especially appreciate Tim’s Christian foundation (without being a Bible-thumper), his love for his country (the constitutional republic form of it), and desire to help people help themselves by filing the proper papers while understanding what it was they were filing and why.

    Let me say that I never drank all of the Kool Aid that the supporters of the NR did, and I sometimes wondered if that was because I was just concerned about the implications of such an association in the long run, or if it was because I didn’t see any immediate results or benefits, or because I couldn’t afford the copying and postage costs associated with filing the famous “freedom documents”, or if it was a combination of the above. But while I wasn’t an avid supporter, I also thought that if there was ever a man who stood for principles that I believed the founding fathers would espouse, it was Tim Turner.
    It also seemed that Tim Turner was more than familiar with the stranglehold the private banking system had on our Constitutional Republican form of government and was addressing that as lawfully as anyone could–always NOTICING through administrative process (and isn’t that one of the maxims of law that most attorneys never even touch?—exhausting the administrative process FIRST so as not to waste the court’s time??? –and that’s why attorneys like to pick cases up in the “middle”, in litigation, because that’s where the real money for them is—in the controversy/arguing??) all concerned parties in such a way that they were asked to respond/answer in a certain amount of time so as not to be answering “yes” by acquiescence. I never saw anyone offering a remedy that made any MORE sense according to the law. Yet, it did often expose the fact that often the parties weren’t hearing, much less listening, much less answering. It appeared that they’d prefer to stand in their too-big-to-fail-good-ol-boy-fraternity position than give the appearance or impression that they had any obligation to anyone other than their own agenda–and certainly not the law!
    I also remember that he was one of the Directors of FEMA in Florida under Jeb Bush I believe, and how he resigned voluntarily because of what he was being asked to do against conscience, and how there was at least one, if not two attempts on his life after that because he couldn’t stay quiet about some of the evils that FEMA was up to and trying to make him party to as a Director.
    I also remember how he was supposedly in close communications with the FBI, inviting them to every assembly or meeting that was held for the New Republic so that none could say that what he was doing was subversive or otherwise a threat to the country. I remember hearing that after attending so many meetings, the FBI actually stopped showing up at every meeting because they were in fact supportive of what the NR was doing and realized it was of no threat.
    Now, on the other side of the coin, Ken Cousens, one “studied in the law” and I believe the de jure governor of the republic of California for a short time also produced a lecture as to why the NR was nothing more than a private association styled after the form of a republic and was never properly put together to warrant it being recognized by any legitimate government in the world, starting with the fact that it didn’t have it’s own post office or banking system, and ending with the fact that the executive officers were never voted-in correctly by electors (supposedly one of the LAST things you do in forming a new government, not one of the FIRST!). For such cogent reasons as Ken laid out (after he resigned from the office) he said of course the NR would NEVER gain the traction or respect among governments/nations that people were hoping they would.
    On one of those notes, I’d also like to elaborate a bit as I can also support the sober tenor with which you address the voting process. I can’t say that I would disagree with some of your recommendations, but it does seem to completely side-step what Robb Ryder (he has numerous YouTubes) and his research have let him to discover; namely that as sovereigns in the de jure, we are actually “electors” who give up our authority to direct City Hall (as to what they should be doing/holding them accountable to the job descriptions of their offices) when we are coaxed/persuaded (believably through the public screwel system or pitch of the democratic process (where two wolves and one sheep vote what’s for dinner!) that by becoming a REGISTERED VOTER we are actually giving up our greater authority as an elector in the de jure, and becoming just another vote in the de facto democracy further believing that somehow NOW WE HAVE A VOICE THROUGH OUR VOTE!

    Did you ever watch that Robb Ryder video I sent you? He’s kind of like a bull in a china closet the way he bumps around trying to pronounce words and the like. But while I fear I get hung up on grammar and those issues (the details), I also fear that I might be missing the forest for the trees while someone like former Viet Nam vet Robb Ryder might be seeing the real forest a lot easier than I can!

    More chicanery? Trickery? Subversive programing to aid in the powers that be bringing the sheep to the slaughter? I grew up trusting that somehow the powers that be were even more concerned about protecting baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet more than I was! Now, I don’t trust anyone with government credentials, even if that means someone trained only in the public screwl system and their attending universities. And the more I see/experience/hear about the courts where justice is supposed to be sought, the more I realize there is little if any justice to be found there, that instead it is “just us” looking for fairness, for remedy, for justice. And why anyone with your credentials would want to go back is illogical given that people in the know usually aren’t seeking the help of an attorney, and when they do, they usually discover how impotent they are to make any significant changes or differences when it comes to getting justice. (i.e. Michael Pines, Richard Fine, Charles Lincoln III, etc.) There’s a lot to be said for the schools of hard knocks, and the people who have attended them like you going through what you have to become dis-barred, and extradited and the like. You show more by those actions the kind of character that attracts honest people–though admitedly maybe honest people who can’t afford your services! Haven’t we learned by now that any attorney that is really going to live on the cutting edge of making a difference is also going to put his BAR card at risk? If not, is not the end result going to be some sort of compromise or settlement instead of a victory? Or is a settlement supposed to be the victory?

    I was reminded of this yesterday when a registered agent with the IRS who’s helping us deal with over $22k of “frivolous filing” penalties finally counseled us to take advantage of a new law with the IRS that puts a maximum ceiling on our penalties of $500 or $1000. Sure, sounds a lot better than $22k plus! But is it just? Is it right? No! Not when you have others more learned in the law pointing out their dirty laundry! How conditioned have we become to accept the lowest we can afford rather than go after the #$%%# ##$#!$!^%’s for taking advantage of folks that THEY KNOW don’t have the resources to expose their crimes!!! A bottle of Tide is still more affordable than buying the whole laundrymat.ndry (As JT who you met and has the IRC all but memorized says, “they’re citing codes under Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms sections, and not codes under income tax! Furthermore, the code section you SHOULD be under they ignore because it has no implementing regulation. In other words, they have no authority to regulate or make judgements or impose fines in the code section under which your activity falls. So they pull you in under another one and make it hell for you in every way to correct the record!
    Enough for you to chew on for now. Dan

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